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Originally Posted by Dr. MMA
haha Couture wasn't successful for the long period he was in. He was active for a long time in the title picture (the grandest stage in MMA) but continually traded wins and losses.
Baumgartner was always in the grandest stage and repeatedly delivered. Also, having tied with the same amount of world/olympic championships as Karelin (probably the greatest greco wrestler of all time) is an amazing sign itself.
I'll definitely have a harder time arguing this though, your knowledge in amateur wrestling (from what I've noticed in the last 2 years) is top notch and the best on the forums.
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Couture is the best example there is... he wins and losses but won championships throughout his career, but MMA has a more random outcome then wrestling does.
Karelin has 3 Gold Medals, but I don't disagree that Baumgartner was the best HW in US history and the most accomplished US Olympic wrestler ever.
You had it right when you said that lighter divisions are more technical, but they are also thicker in talent... for some reason really big guys would rather play football.
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Originally Posted by bitch trash
Fact is you don't who he is, when you should since you claim to know so much about MMA in general, and he trains ALOT of big time fighters. Where did I train with him? Well, sir it'd be back in 2004 in FT Lauderdale when I received my black belt under him. It'd be all over the news? Do you realize how many train at younger ages and receive their black belts at the age of 18-19 because they have to WAIT until they receive it at that age?  You're right...It'd be all over the news, hence why any major/mid level star receives it and we find out either in an MMA forum or when a fight takes place that we watch on TV or attend.(i.e. no one knew Dustin Hazelett or Joe Daddy received their black belts not too long ago until these forums or when it was said on the last UFC pay per view that Dustin did). I love how your remarks to what I say seems to be sudden babble over not understanding what I say, but everyone else seems to talk through things with me on an intelligent basis without acting 12(as I have stated before because my little sister does the "I can't understand what you're saying" shit). Oh, look at that...Never knew there was an ignore list. Fun. Might wanna talk to the other guy I reconciled with(and we came to an understanding) because he has my "proof" that you claim to be oh so a lie. Good-bye.
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Paragraphs are our friends... it's funny how all you can talk about is how everyone is unintelligent and doesn't know anything about MMA, yet you said not one thing MMA related. Everything you said can be applied to anything in life even if it's not sports related.
What were you doing last summer Napolian?