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Originally Posted by thecoylewis
The UFC pushed that Ken Shamrock-Tito feud through the Ultimate Fighter and tons of people were talking about it when it was happening. Then they pushed and pushed for the rematch because it got stopped early. You can hardly fault him for fighting Shamrock when they had a legit feud and made him and the UFC a ton of money. He fought who they wanted him to fight.
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Yes, the UFC sure did hype up that fight. They promoted it and sold it very well. Tito and Ken both played their part very well too.
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis
And I wasn't comparing the records alone. I'm saying look what each guy has done over their last 5 fights, compare opponents, and the outcome of those fights.
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis
I found the last 5 fights of each fighter. It's not a compilation of every fighters key fights. Being that professional sports is what have do done for me lately, I picked the last 5 fights and compared those results.
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Yeah, I saw that criteria after I posted. I misread it the first time.
Right. 5 is a good number for Tito. If you would have done their last 4 fights you would have Tito only beating Ken twice and losing to Chuck and drawing with Rashad.
Forrest would look better and so would Jardine.
If you examined Tito's record since the beginning of 2002 you would see that he has
Decision over Cote
Split Decision over Vitor
Split Decision over Forrest
3 wins over Shamrock
And he has lost to Chuck twice
Lost to Randy
Drew with Rashad.
Aside from beating Shamrock repeatedly he has 3 decision wins (2 splits) one draw, and lost 3.
His record lately (last 6 and a half years) for stopping fights if it's not against Shamrock isn't so hot.
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis
And I do agree that Shogun is at the top, but with his knee injury, a torn ACL, I didn't throw him in the mix because 1) we don't know when he's coming back and 2) what condition he will be in when he does come back. I hope he comes back with a vengeance and destroys Chuck when that fight inevitably happens.
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So is this
-What have you done for me lately?
-What will you do for me in the future?
-I want to see you lose because you beat up my hero?
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis
And I created the thread because of all of the other threads being all about Dana vs Tito, who deserves what. I wanted a general breakdown of these fighters with some compare and contrast, and to get a feel of what people thought as far as whether or not he should stay or go. And with UFC 84 being a week out, it's not a bad idea. I can tell you know, it has nothing to do with me being a Tito fan. I created a few threads about the last PPV and will make a thread about UFC 85 before it happens and 86 after that.
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So all these Tito threads went right along with all your threads and polls about
-Penn vs Sherk
-Soko vs Nakamura
-Silva vs Jardine
-Salaverry vs Palhares
etc...
Right?
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis
I like talking on these forums while I am at work to pass the time when there is down time. I like to get the opinions of like minded individuals who like to debate the subjects. KC56 and Rivethead never disappoint in the debate. I value the opinions. Isn't that the point?
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Sure is.