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Old 04-15-2008, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Afro View Post
Lets see

Hironaka
Karo
Lytle
DeSouza

Which one of these guys doesnt have a great ground game?
So what if alves opponents have had good ground games, they never took place on the ground. So i dont understand what kind point your trying to make.

if they had gone to the ground alves would have been outmatched by all those guys. he destroyed hironaka on the feet. he beat lytle with a cut, he was lucky because he was losing that fight, which was also a standup battle. he manhandled desouza on the feet on way to TKO and threw him around a bit.. He KO'd karo in a short standup fight. Correct me if im wrong but i do beleive those were all primarily standup fights.

the only 2 fights that alves was on the ground that i can think of is the fight with jon fitch and spencer fisher. he got tkod by fitch and subbed by fisher. and fischer is not really known for his bjj. Ive never seen anything outa alves that indicates an above average ground game.

so therefor i think he loses to fitch again if they fight. fitch has the ability to take him down, and he has a better ground game to control him. Unless his ground game and TK'd defense has rapidly improved i cant see him winning this rematch at all.
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