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Originally Posted by halozero
oh, most certainly, i jack up on protein before a workout--but you can easily do that without supplements. almonds, walnuts, fish, cheese, eggs, {whites if you have high cholesterol} hemp seeds...
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Fish, cottage cheese, and eggs are pretty good for protein. I'm not sure about nuts. What I've always read is that aside from soy, non-aminal product proteins are generally not "complete," as in they only contain a significant amount of some of the essential amino acids rather than all. I eat walnuts for the healthy fats when I'm trying to put on muscle though.
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Originally Posted by halozero
those in the nursing industry call centrum "bedpan bullets" because your body can't get all the nutrients out of them that they advertise--the delivery medium doesn't work {gelatin and other synthetic binding agents} powders are alright, but again you are better off with natural base ingredients {soy or any bean}
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Well yah bioavailability is a problem even with whole foods, especially since they no longer have the kind of nutrients they once did due to modern farming methods. That's why many people prefer free-form amino acids over protein powders. I take a multi a few times daily often with protein bars and shakes containing some vitamins and minerals, plus C and B complex pills. I also aim for a clean diet of course.
Also of note is that people who are type A blood tend to absorb nutrients better than others. If you're type A, you can probably get all you need from a clean diet. Otherwise I'd add some vitamin/mineral supplements to the mix.
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Originally Posted by halozero
antioxidants from fresh fruit and tea combined with omega 3's really seems to be the "magic" combination--you really have to look at your body as a whole system, working together.
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Yeah that's true. You also need to have enough omega-6 and 9's too. Getting in some CLA, fiber, and adequate protein are all pretty important.
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Originally Posted by halozero
this is just my personal experience, but i went from 125 pounds average to about 145 in the last 6 months or so, all of it muscle. i haven't felt this good in years.
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Have you started lifting more? Not to doubt you, but 20 lbs of muscle in a year is pushing the genetic limit for a natural athlete, although people who just started lifting weights or doing some kind of strength training tend to have higher gains the first year or so.
Just FYI, for every 10 lbs of muscle you gain, there's an extra 4 lbs of nitrogen. You may be retaining a bit more water weight now or you may've put on a few pounds of fat, but not enough to recognize. I'm not doubting that you look and feel as solid as before, but I really doubt that all of it is muscle if you're a natural athlete.