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Originally Posted by Hypergit
Shamrock won round 1 in most sane people's opinions.
However, this is a moot point as getting the DQ win -guarantees- victory, which is better than hanging on for a possible points win or highly unlikely submission.
First, they were obviously intentional. Second, even a no contest is preferable to a loss esp by KO which is where he was heading. He was hurting, and family honour was at stake. It was the most logical option for him.
Raising the arm snapping incident is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my life so we're even.
He had no choice - as a Gracie he was simply not permitted to tap. Also, not tapping was his best chance to win much like exagerating his injury was in this fight.
I think they're both ****s, but yes the buck stops with Sham. Is that ok? Am I allowed a slightly different opinion to you?
Sham is a **** for cheating, and Renzo is a **** for exagerating his alleged injury, and I never want to see either of them again. That's my view and I'm sticking to it  |
lol, I dunno what you got hold of last night to see the fight as you did, but damn I need to get me some of that. Im have no idea how u could say Frank was winning the first round, sorry just dont (every major MMA site that I have checked had Renzo winning the first rd). As far as me bringing up the arm snapping incident, I am not comparing the two situations, Im using the incident to show how tough the guy is. ( Also the only Pic he has in his gym is one of a loss) As far as gracies not being allowed to tap, how many other gracies had limbs snapped instead of tapping? You saying Renzo was on the verge on being KOed is funny, your a funny guy. When you say he exagerated his injury, is what really bothers me. First off what type of medical training to you have? Second even if your the best brain surgeon in the world, you will prolly have some trouble diagnosing him through the TV. I really just want to know how you are so sure that Renzo was not concussed and quit to get the worthless W